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Update Preview: 4.3 Balance Changes

Author - WR_Tofsla

You can play War Robots in many different ways. Be a nimble mecha-assassin. Or a walking fortress that won't budge even if you drop a nuclear bomb on it. Or a 40-feet high mobile ambulance that repairs other robots with its nanomachine magic.

The new Workshop opened up lots of play styles that were hard to reach before — with it you have an access to almost any robot and weapon. Now we have to ensure that all options are equally playable and have their place on the battlefield. For this to be the case, we have to constantly review War Robots roster to find problematic equipment and tune it up or down.

Our goal right now is to make if not all, but most tactics equally desirable. We know you have a lot of things collecting dust in your storage because they stopped seeming as viable as they once were. Update 4.3 will introduce a large-scale rebalance that should put them back into action.

Rebalance goals

More variety on the battlefield

We keep hearing from veteran players: it is not fun when every match boils down to a pure Dash-Descend extravaganza. Spectre, Bulgasari, and Haechi paired with Shocktrain, Scourge or Orkan are just too good to pass by. High-damage, high-mobility burst builds dominate all over the Expert league and higher. They are good at pretty much everything and overshadow all other options.

You asked for this — we are doing this. Among other changes, we are lowering the power of these items.

It doesn't mean the death of top-tier builds though. Many enjoy using their dashers, and we want them to stay powerful. With more breathing room for other builds, there will be more variety on the battlefield. How so? When heavy robots enter the fight — nifty beacon hunters appear aiming to outrun them. And with more beacon hunters — there are more interesting targets to burst down.

Variety is what we strive for. In a long run, this should make War Robots an even more interesting place.

More viability for heavy, team-oriented builds

To carve a space for more methodical, team-oriented play style we are giving multiple buffs to Weyland and Bulwark. Lancelot, Fury, Natasha and Ancile/ECU shields will also become stronger. This should give you more reasons to team up and protect each other instead of always going for the kill.

New life for heavy weapons

Even though there are tons of powerful weapons for heavy slots, not many robots are able to utilize them to a full extent. So first of all, we are buffing robots with heavy slots: Weyland, Bulwark, Carnage, Fury and some others.

Additionally, weapons like Ember, Nashorn, Redeemer and Exodus get extra damage.

Falcon has the biggest change.

Remember Falcon? When in the air, this robot unfurls 2 additional medium slots. This is strong in theory, but the real combat showed that this amount of extra firepower doesn't fully justify being exposed to all winds. We switch 2 medium slots to 2 heavy ones — this should give you more reasons to play aggressively and pull your Thunders and Exoduses from the closet.

New options for light/heavy hybrids

Robots that utilize both heavy and light weapons required our attention too. Natasha, Leo, Mercury, Hellburner and Strider are solid machines by themselves, but their weapon choice left a lot to be desired.

To address this, we're tuning up Molot, Arbalest and light lock-down weapons. This should open more room for experiments on these robots.

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All these tweaks come in a single pack, and it will definitely take some time to adapt. We will keep fine-tuning these numbers to reach the goals we listed above. For those willing to switch to a new, now-viable playstyle there are some things in the works to help you retool your hangars. Coming soon.

You can find the full list of balance changes on the test server page or by using the links below. And yes — you can try everything in action by joining this weekend's test server session.

TEST SERVER | PRELIMINARY REBALANCE SHEET

We are looking forward to your feedback. See you on the battlefield!

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Allast month

When are we going to be able to upgrade more thands one item

Al2 months ago

When are we going to be able to scrap bots for work shop points?

ShadowRust2 months ago

What about the Griffin? One of the best and fun bots to run in the game while still being cost affordable is not buffed? The jump ability reload time is to slow and too long and I think it can use a bit a of a speed buff.

NUTZ3583 months ago

The times for workshop were fine before the update. Being on the crap end of the stick round after round because of pay to play domination is the main thing that sucks about this game.
The team balancing is still terrible. Some matches still last less than 2 minutes due to stacking.
The friends search still does not actually search player ID. I have tried.
The robots that needed buffing the most have been left out. The Leo should get a speed boost. The reset time for the Griffin's jump got passed over. Yet brand new robots that most people don't have got overhauled? Jacking up the Mercury even more? Plus, the Ember already did quite enough damage.
In conclusion it seems that in the last few updates you have taken away the ability to buy certain weapons and bots in gold and replaced the option with workshop points. You have then proceeded to make those same weapons cost 5 times as much if you use the option to 'purchase now' in gold. Then because the paid players created such a stink because Pixonic decided to give a little bit of a break to the WR community in creation times, the rest of us literally got the s*%^ end of the stick with the newest update.
2/ 5 for the new update. It would be 1/5 except for the couple of crumbs thrown out.
NUTZ358


Paco ter Steege3 months ago

The bulgasari is so worse that a Destier is even better now. fix it. its not fair.

Paco ter Steege3 months ago

The Bulgasari sucks at the moment. you went too far.

KG45UR3 months ago

You just take away the specifications and damage points which I PAID already without ANY COMPENSATION?
MAKE COMPENSATIONS TO ALL AFFECTED OR A CLASS SUIT FROM US.

ҠING3 months ago

I have really no problem with workshop time if pixonic will increase or decrease time so its still same for me and for 60% other player.
From old econmy I was get bulgasuri heachi inqusitor kimhu.
In weapons 3 taran 7 orkans 1 redeemer 2 scourge.
And these items was my super hanger and for 3rd scourge i was at 9k components but pixonic change econmy increased uograding time so.
My 2x scourge is mk2 max and 3rd one is still at lvl6 from last 4 month.
Then i get spectre and start using with 4x orkan but spectre still at lvl6 from last 3 months.
So im not getting any more item from new economy because i can not upgrade more then lvl 6 but i was still happy while playing as old days and i was enjoying this pretty game because of my (heachi+orkan) (inqusitor+redeemer+taran) (bulgasuri+scourge) (spectre+orkans) other wise i have bulwark from last 2 month but im not upgrading i know i can not upgrade more then lvl6 and lvl6 not enough for use.
But after 4.3 update heachi orkans spectre going to usless bulgasuri still good not best
And now my super hanger is finished now i have to make new hanger setup if i was to get enjoy while playing but i can able to upgrade any thing more then lvl6.
Now i try to play but when im starting game one simple rebot called griffin+taran+megum he is easly killing my heachi and now i can not play any more if dont make new hanger.
But if will struggle for get new weapons new rebots so i also can not upgrade more then lvl6 so i noticed now im getting bored while playing no fun no enjoyment but i was want still playing but nothing i can do.
Not only me 60% players now not playing because thay also lose every battle and while losing every battle there is no fun no enjoyment
If pixonic will see database and check players activies so pixonic will know that now players not playing like old days.
Im 30 year old and im had many many many games but i never seen before this type upgrading time.
60% players and me too wanna still play and try to get enjoy but im losing 10/9 battles and that why these 60% players now feelings tried while playing and think about something else like watching tv play some other games e.t.c

Blue Dragon DX3 months ago

Grinder, Boi have you been here since leo was first added no well then you don’t understand boi

Blue Dragon DX3 months ago

jakima, Because spectre and orkans were boring and not fun to fight against especially since spectre players take less risk then a greedy man with his money

Blue Dragon DX3 months ago

Finally I hate orkans that’s why got haechi to take orkans also because I love dodging things and now we need is to bring back the old Leo model and this game will be fun again yes I stopped playing leo just cause you made him look bad give Leo the thunder treatment not the golem

Edgar Sepa3 months ago

Chau, Answer is that they want to sell them to you so you don't need to produce them later...?

Edgar Sepa3 months ago

Panzer, Agree with panzer. No wallet payers0No game=no free player=no game...

Mostafa Adel3 months ago

Please don’t make the components time longer just please isn’t already enough that you made robots longer to upgrade why......your making me play less because of the upgrading time and producing time just please please don’t do this please make all upgrade and production times less so I can play more just please don’t do this please.😭😞

Edgar Sepa3 months ago

If you are going for reducing the damage output of shocktrains or other weaponry, thwn reduce the price aswell!

Because now it seems that almost anything costs a lot of money which i find highly unfair.

104 euros for a level 1 rayker is too much come on people, they seems to be money hungry....
Considering you need to upgrade rayker which alone is like few hundred euros for a single robot. Not to mwntions the weapons and times.

And what economy balance?? Your robots cost a lot, and you want to make them even harder to obtain!!

Cryhavoc20123 months ago

Dude, Pixonic, can I have a refund or something? I worked my ass off getting to masters league and earning a Bulgasari and a Spectre, And was enjoying the game so much that I broke down and bought two more plus a premium account... about a week before 4.3 came out. Now my hangar, with three Spectres, a Haechi and a Bulgasari; with Orkans and shocks, is garbage. That’s a year of my life and like a hundred bucks down the drain. My I’m game ID is IZGOO8. My clan leader found himself screwed as well and just quit the game. He was a big spender as well.

Bullsh**3 months ago

Even though some of the changes are fair, generally pixonic has proven over the years that they only care about money money money. So in reality, the changes are just to force you buy the new robots and weapons. Once you spend your nice money on the endless upgrades, version 4.4 will appear downgrading again the old equipment and boosting the new products for sale. I am always laughing with their prices. Which idiots gave 100 dollars for specter? Did you learn your lesson now? Stop spending money here. They are just greedy for more.

Jester3 months ago

Hello, I'm probably one of your most consistent spenders, Jester - ID 61BAXO. I'm one to always give change an opportunity and have typically enjoyed the new improvements/challenges. That being said this most recent update has completely changed the game, but unfortunately in a negative fashion. The spectres were fast, fun and explosive. You've now nerfed them to the point of where they're relatively ineffective unless using shock trains or ballistas, basically range bots. Not to mention that it's really unprofessional to basically obsolete hangars that people have put a lot of time and money into....I get tweaking some things, but today was ridiculous. You're forcing us to roll out a fleet of Falcons and Mercury's which are not nearly as fun or competitive as the spectre's were. I'll be looking at alternative games to invest my time/money into as well as putting down 1 star reviews.....what Pixonics did today was immoral and made the game play much less enjoyable.

Angry young man3 months ago

Very good
I just fucked my 1.5 year on this bloody bullshit game. I spend alot on heachi and my heaxhi is mk2 with mk2 orkans but grifin kill me easy with 2x tran lv10 2x megnum v10.
My time my moneny is free???
Fucking bullshit pixo what you want with ppls
Heaxhi was op so pixo fucked heachi orkan was op so pixo fucked orkans
Are you fool or we are fool?
You these 3 rebots invart reyal biltz is not op?
Falcon is not op?
With in few months you are just fucking us again n again ast you incressed uograding time and cost then you see players are also have good rebots and good rebots from old economy so you fucked all old items and pushing us for new.
What you are think now we will fuck our paricious time and money for get new rebots new weapons and after few months you will again fucked up our fuck hanger.
Now its enough.
Now my dick will play this bloody useles game.
Bye forever
Bloody bullshit owner

SuperHaechi3 months ago

Pixonic, if the buff data is true in test server the Bulwark and Falcon will be the new OP bot in coming update. Falcon is a medium bot but has 3 heavy slots? And its speed will be 49 or 50 km/h? High speed, very high firepower, and can reduce 66% damage in normal mode? The new Falcon will be like a monster. If you want to change its slot to heavy then must nerf its durablity and damage reduction ability in normal mode. Because it will be real tank in normal mode after you buffing Falcon's durablity, and when it trigger its ability the Falcon can unleash 3 heavy weapon's firepower,
1 Ember and 2 Exoduses or 3 Exoduses or 3 Ember or other mid range or long range weapon? May be Falcon can carry 2 Ancile? Too OP! Too horrible! The Falcon has more potential and firepower than Spectre and Dashes. Dash bots are medium bot but only has 3 mid slots, why Falcon has 3 heavy slots? Why Falcon's speed higher than
Haechi and Bulgasari? Why speed of 3 heavy slots higher than 3 mid slots? Why Fury's speed less than this bot? Also Fury has 3 heavy slots! So this bot is very ridiculous!
Next let's look at Bulwark. Bulwark is a heavy bot because it has high durability,
special shield and physical shield, but why its speed higher than Haechi? Is Haechi not an agile bot? Too ridiculous! So you buff these 2 bots too strong but nerf dashes and Spectre too weak.
I know you want to make more variety on the battlefield, but the result is obvious if those so called rebalance go live. The new Falcon and Bulwark will take the
place of Spectre and Dashes, every people's hanger has more these 2 bots with different setup. Another Spectre!So ironic! So for you so called rebalance, please nerf these 2 bots and minor buff dashes and Spectre.

Tesla2209043 months ago

endyu, The bulwark and falcon won’t be op at least you will do damage to them and you won’t be annhialted by orkans or scourge or any medium weapon! Also the penetration and resistance would be too complicated and hard to understand for new players

endyu3 months ago

Brumosus, Because Pixonic is doing this out of greed, not to balance the game. If you think this will bring balance, then you don't understand the game. Of course the game will seem balanced on the Test server, people are trying out every bot/weapon and the changes made to them. What people like you don't realize is that they are actually forcing us into a different meta that legacy bots have even less of a shot competing in.

Currently, a Spectre can be taken out by a Griffin if its stealth is down or if its caught off guard. A Griffin will have no chance against a new Falcon or Bulwark... it might do a little damage. How about an MK2 Dragoon Fury wiping out Griffins in a single salvo at 600m? Does that sound fun to you?

Pixonic had a great idea with the damage resistance/penetration. Got good feedback, then they decide to give us this shit. This is out of pure greed.

PRINCESS-AZULA!!3 months ago

Ya what's is it with the upgrade times?! They suck!! I don't want to be 40 to upgrade a hachi!

Brumosus3 months ago

I don’t understand you people. You ask and whine and cry for a rebalance, and when they finally give it to you, you accuse them of stealing money and just trying to make the new Robots look better. It’s idiotic to want them to delete the new bots from the game and pay everyone back, it’s completely unreasonable. Yes, they made a mistake, but they are trying to fix it. I think they’re doing a pretty darn good job. Well done PIXONIC.

VJSON3 months ago

i have a question why upgrade is long ???

Lim3 months ago

I think pixonic should nerf Griffin in order to include more variety in lower league.

Mwm Mwm3 months ago

Better reduce the cost and upgrade time of the old weapons and bots than re balancing every thing. At least I stand a better chance against a spectre with a old max out griffin. Or maybe you can have a extra bot slot in the hanger when you only have a silver hangar to play.

Richard Cramer3 months ago

You know what.Every game mode now on its own tab. Tested the test server and I had fun again not like I had had in a while. My falcon will finally be used as a brawler can't wait. Shocktrain nurfed old bots getting buffs what's not to love. I'll probably complaint. When we only get random and ffa only again but have loved playing koth mostly with people who like it also as people who don't like it don't have to select it no more and don't ruin the game. Even find myself playing tdm which I would never do in past. So you know what I'm happy things are changing and they are showing older bots weapons the much needed love. So for once from me Jeremy Kyle Show well done Pixo release the update now as I'm well happy.
Hater will hate but end of the day it's only a game you choose to download and play it so stop moaning or uninstall it and play pubg or something.

alintagjr3 months ago

before anything else, i would like to compliment and give my respect to (islander a.k a foggy1aming) for being neutral in all ways... NOW!!! PAYXONIC with all this commotion going on and the near release of the so called REBALANCE SHIT 4.3 AND THE RELEASE OF THE 3 SUPPRESSION BOTS, WHERE DOES THE OLD BOTS AND THE BOSS (SPECTRE) LEAVES? EVERY TIME THERE'S A NEW BOTS INTRODUCED, IT PUTS THE EXISTING BOTS INTO TRASH OR USELESS. WILL IT REALLY HELP THE "VERETRAN" PLAYER TO REGAIN THERE EXCITEMENT IN THE GAME? HOW ABOUT THE NEW PLAYERS WHO WAITED FOR THE CHANCE TO GET HOLD OF THE "PREMIUM" BOTS, WEAPONS? JUST RIGHT AFTER IMPLEMENTING THE NEW ECONOMY (WHICH REALLY SUCKS) AND THE EASY COMPONENTS VIA WORKSHOP, YOU PLANNING TO TWEAK THE ITEMS THAT "WE PLAYERS" BEEN LONGING TO HAVE, JUST TO PLAY EQUAL FOOTING WITH THE OTHERS? THE PAINSTAKING TIME WE SPENT PLAYING WILL ALL JUST GO WASTE!!! THE ONLY LEFT VICTIM OF THIS MERRY-GO-ROUND SYSTEM IS US (PLAYERS). WELL I DON'T KNOW IF THE OTHERS ARE SEEING THIS PICTURE... ALL WE CAN DO IS WAIT, WHETHER WE CAN STILL BE AROUND OR JUST FIND A WAY AROUND....

AngryBots3 months ago

PIXNOIC, If you really want to rebalancing you can buffing all old robots (before dashes) ,
giving them new powerfull skills, AND delete all OP robots and weapons in game, BUT, PLS ATTENTION, YOU MUST REFUND MONEY TO US!!! EVERY PENNY YOU EARNED FROM US!!! BECAUSE WE PAYED REAL MUCH MONEY TO BUY THOSE SO CALLED OP BOTS AND WEAPONS! THAT'S THE REAL REBALANCING!!! YES, I know your cheap trick, the debuff bots
(Blitz, Rayker, Invader) will coming in next update, you claim how powerful they are.
Yes of course you don't want to see your new bots be beaten like a shit. HaHa, you still count on it to make MONEY. SO, LET'S NERFING SPECTRE/DASHES and powerfull weapons. HaHa, those old op bots just like a shit now. Players has to buy your new ugly bots to win if they wants victory. That's your despicable making money way. From now on, I won't PAY ANY PENNY ON YOUR GAME!!! New bots? New weapon? GO TO SHIT!!! YOU BASTARD COMPANY!!!

alintagjr3 months ago

I dont think this reblance SHIT will help us players any good... Its not our fault that U (PAYXONIC) made SPECTRE an OP bot, WHY DID U PUT 4MID WEAPON ON A 55KPH WITH A JUMP AND 4SEC STEALTH BOT FROM THE FIRST PLACE AND SELL IT FOR 100USD??? THEN AFTER YOUR PLAYERS HAVE BOUGHT IT NOW YOUR NERFING IT??? TWEAKING OR NERFING A LOT OF THINGS WILL NOT SOLVE THE UNBALANCE GAMING NOR THE MISSED MATCH MAKING... THERE ARE FREE PLAYERS THAT SUPPORTS THE GAME, YES!!! BUT THERE ARE ALSO PREMIUM/ SEMI PREMIUM PLAYERS. PAYXONIC BE MORE RATIONAL ON EVERY TWEAK UR DOING.

Fryball14433 months ago

Hellyea, I’ve been playing for 2 years and I can’t ever get anything but my friend that has been playing for almost 2 months has gotten more good free stuff tha

Moje Ime3 months ago

Players are not guilty because a couple of "Pixonic" fools have no sense of balance. The one who "invented" ShockTrain has proved to be a weak mathematician and should be dismissed. No job for you dickead asshole motherfucker son of the bitch bloody hell idiot etc... Such fools should keep as far away from the game. Take his CPU and burn him.

Herb2 months ago

Bulwark is seeming very OP at the moment. Aegis + physical shield, great durability, higher speed than carnage. This is what we swapped out bulgasari for?

Herb2 months ago

I really want to have a testing room where you can go in, shoot at a dummy bot or 2 or 3, and get to see how much damage my builds can do at different range over what amount of time.

Vizmo3 months ago

ST will still be OP. I inflict a lot a pain with my Lvl 12 ST's. A 13% nerf means that at MK2, I will still INCREASE my damage. You should definitely nerf the range so that it does not compete with the ION, and also slow down the ST reload time substantially--to 15 seconds. That is the PRIMARY ST trifecta. Range, fast loading, and powerful. The bounce is only a secondary benefit.

A Dragoon and Mender buff? Are you all nuts? Have you never tried killing a MK2 Mender while it's healing? Have you never been hit by a MK2 Goon Fury?

How is a Fury with three heavies faster than a Natasha? How in HELL are both faster than a Griffin? Griff should be the fastest of the three, then Natty, then Fury.

I love the Falcon, but just the 3 heavies was a big enough buff. You didn't need to do the rest.

Trident needs some love still. Hope you all make the firing and reload a bit faster, along with selective fire and reload while firing.


People will spend $$$ on the game if it's fair and balanced, and they feel like it's well spent. You can make gradual better weapons and bots, but when your launch stuff ridiculously OP, then start nerf and rebalancing, it really puts ppl off--especially your supporters. I saw 3 quit this month. They had stacked hangers. They were just tired of your business model.

Romeo_63 months ago

Death Stalker, It is possible that you may be paying against tankers. These shameless sadists deliberately lower their leagues to play against weaker players so that they can come up tops and earn more gold, silver and other rewards.

Romeo_63 months ago

SunsynFF, Those who are whining must be those credit card gamers who splash money on the most powerful bot and weapons money can buy and upgrade everything to MK2 level 12 so that they can pulverise their opponent just by pressing the fire button. The rebalancing exercise will just nerf their ability to play without using their brains. To hell with them. This game should be limited to those who love a good skill challenge, not those with deep pockets and think that victory and success can be bought using money

Romeo_63 months ago

PREACHEROFTHETRIUNE , Agree. The storage for both robots and their equipments are difficult to sift through when the amount begin to stack up. There is just too much horizontal scrolling and can be quite tiring. We may miss our selection if we scroll too fast at times. Perhaps pull-down menus can be introduced to reduce scrolling and keep the storage tidy

Marcelo3 months ago

It is complicated to invest money to buy and evolve the Specter and the weapons and you will now change the hability and speed of the and decrease the damage of the weapons, congratulations you are forcing me to play with this nonsense, sorry pity change !!

PREACHEROFTHETRIUNE 3 months ago

NOTE FROM THE PREACHER: We hope you are doing well. Thanks for the changes, it’s always a little hard to adapt to the new environment. FREE membership in the lottery spinner would suffice to help compensate.

My mom would’ve killed me if my sock drawer was organized like my extra WAR ROBOTS stuff is held! One thing we talk about but I haven’t seen addressed yet is the weapons and extra robot organizer for the extra weapons and robots you collected. The arrangement is very random and hard to find the pieces you are looking for. And if you sell something, it randomizes things again! We all would love an upgrade to the sorting system of our extra stuff. Sort it by type or sort it by level or even give an option to sort it by either or! It’s time for WAR ROBOTS to move to the next level. Better organization of our storage is the foundational place to start! This will also allow us to sell our extra stuff easier for increased silver...since we could see and understand what we have. If you could give a matrix screen to show numbers of each type, etc. that would be awesome, but I know that would require a lot of thought and work.

Thanks in advance! WAR ROBOTS is the best! Let’s keep it and make it more awesome.
-Mike

PREACHEROFTHETRIUNE 3 months ago

NOTE FROM THE PREACHER: We hope you are doing well. Thanks for the changes, it’s always a little hard to adapt to the new environment. FREE membership in the lottery spinner would suffice to help compensate.

My mom would’ve killed me if my sock drawer was organized like my extra WAR ROBOTS stuff is held! One thing we talk about but I haven’t seen addressed yet is the weapons and extra robot organizer for the extra weapons and robots you collected. The arrangement is very random and hard to find the pieces you are looking for. And if you sell something, it randomizes things again! We all would love an upgrade to the sorting system of our extra stuff. Sort it by type or sort it by level or even give an option to sort it by either or! It’s time for WAR ROBOTS to move to the next level. Better organization of our storage is the foundational place to start! This will also allow us to sell our extra stuff easier for increased silver...since we could see and understand what we have. If you could give a matrix screen to show numbers of each type, etc. that would be awesome, but I know that would require a lot of thought and work.

Thanks in advance! WAR ROBOTS is the best! Let’s keep it and make it more awesome.
-Mike

Dagowood19043 months ago

To The PIXONIC DEVS AND EMPLOYEES. Where to start? All start with My instinct’s are to lash out when i get mad. But thats not going to help! I apologize for talking shit in the past! Well as you see the WORLD ,and i do mean this Rock we all live on,is in an uproar.Me I don’t have ,Spectra,Shocktrain! Nothing exotic realy,1 Kumiho,Inquisitor lvl 5 that i dont use because it will stay lvl 5. Because of the way you guys made the economy. The time to upgrade is way to long. And you know that!!!
The Amount of Silver is to Much , Again (You know this)
I hate the Spectra and Shocktrain, I think you should leave it like it is on the ground . But take away some speed and maybe ,the in flight stealth!!! You knew all this STUFF WAS OVER POWERED BEFORE YOU RELEASED IT. So now after almost a year ,your going to basically fuck over the PEOPLE OF THIS WORLD WHO PAID FOR EACH ITEM . How many MILLION DID YOU GUYS MAKE!!!! Off of those to items alone. Don’t you THINK it would be much easier to buff all the old school Robots. And I suggesting all of them? Wouldn’t you think it would be easier to find balance that way? Tone down the Shocktrains and the Spectra . Buff old bots. And ,Don’t you Think LEO the Old Mans a Little Tired and could use a Little pep in his step also? gYou know Natasha is not the only one thats going to be trying to get away from the lance alot. ANYWAY THE NEW WORK SHOP IS AWESOME! But also it is DEPRESSING AT THE SAME TIME! Why is that ????? THREE GUESSES!!!! (ANSWER) is The UPGRADE TIME OF the NEW Economy. AS Always it is in YOUR HANDS! Thank you! Do everyone right 🙏

Tumdurgal3 months ago

If they really wanted balance, they'd go back to the hangar based league system. But that doesn't force you to upgrade and buy the latest shiny toys.

Randeepa3 months ago

Randeepa, dont do this if u guys want to do this again give me our money and time back again because u guys cheated us,and what is the meaning about the increacing taran power and reducing orakan power that is nonsence,and im.asking u guys told specture is overpower it should be change,so then why are guys going to make it usless and why are u guys make falcon and bulwak overpower there is not any logic.if u guys want to make same powerfull robot why are u guys make falcon and bulwak overpower

Randeepa3 months ago

im actually really upset about the this new rablance system I have 2 heachi one specture one bulga you guys reduce all of powers and abilities from our robot,im using orakan for my every robots but now u going going to destroy my hanger so baddly we spend lot of money and time to make our robots and wepon to get god lel,why are u guys doing that if u guys told that before I never use my money fou your compeny

Dave Dave Crook3 months ago

Not balance, just monetising to sell more power while keeping the new players happy.

PRINCESS-AZULA!!3 months ago

THIS IS COMMUNISM! COMMUNISM IS MAKING EVERY ONE AND THING EQUAL AND THAT IS WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN TO ALL WEAPONS AND ROBOTS!

PRINCESS-AZULA!!3 months ago

Hellyea, I agree the old stuff should just get buffed and the upgrade times are retarded. Several months to max a shocktrain! That's lots of time to get there. And now you are just going to nerf it! I won't spend any money on this game of they keep destroying our hard work!

Tumdurgal3 months ago

"We keep hearing from veteran players: it is not fun when every match boils down to a pure Dash-Descend extravaganza. "

So Pix decided that it will be a Falcon, Bulwark, Pursuer extravaganza. The bonus for Pix - with the economy changes MKII will cost much much more than before, as an added benefit (for Pix) the focus is now on heavy weapons to force people to MKII those instead of mediums - as everyone has medium weapons.

Keep chasing that carrot.

Sinvraal3 months ago

SIDEROBOT, Lol. Personally I don’t think they need to nerf any weapons, just the spectre and the dash.

Orkan is op... but not really when you can only install two.
Even shock train,,,, just two of them is no big deal.

But since they won’t nerf the princess bots complete with “daddy’s precious snowflake” buttons (too much) we are stuck with orkan nerf.

What really should have happened in first place was spectre = 2 medium 2 light. Stealth on jump only zero on the ground. 50 speed max.

Then the spectre would have been a true skill bot.

With current spectre, Nobody here can claim any amount of skill when they get 5 seconds + jump time at 55kph speed with 4 weapons of stealth.





Nova3 months ago

Hay peores cosas por corregir como (hacks, roba kills, balanceo contra otros jugadores y muchas cosas mas) pero deciden hacer este absurdo rebalance (¿y por que bajar las estadisticas de los bots nuevos? sabiendo que pueden estabilizar las de los bots viejos con los actuales) esto es totalmente absurdo ( y digo esto ya que los que no tiene espectre es porque no pueden si no por que no quiere)
Ademas veo que no piensan sobre aquellos que se esforzaron consiguiéndolo o peor aquellos que invirtieron dinero......
seria una gran perdida ya que un bot de sierta cantidad de dolares se vuelva inservible con esta estúpida actualización.
Y ahora que...... vas a subirle 100,000 puntos de vida a un cossack
primero corrige tus errores PIXONIC y lugo actualizas todo lo que quieras
(y aquellos desean que se actualice porque "no tengo un espectre" es porque no se esfuerzan en jugar y conseguirlo)
Sinceramente WR te dejas manipular muy con quejas absurdas
Vas de MAL en PEOR PIXONIC.

Hellyea3 months ago

First why would a vet complain about the same bots he's fighting at the end of a match, when u look in his garage he probably has 3 of the same thing. But only mk2 12. I'm a champ none of my bots are over lvl 11 and most of my weapons are 12 few mk2. I busted my hump getting my specs, bulgs, haechi and I do spend money on this game. How about buffing all the old bots and weapons up to the new standard instead of nerfing the new. I know 1 thing for sure I've been playing this game for around 4 years. I won't be spending anymore money on it especially when Pix doesn't really care about what we say. They're going to do what they want anyways.
1 thing is certain tho Pix if u do actually read this the new workshop is awesome but the new upgrade prices isn't and times aren't

Fabiano De Souza Thomaz3 months ago

Pixonic, there are several means to leave the game balanced, but you seek a means that harms many players. Agent invested time and money in these boots and weapons that you will deny because they are the best, or agent believed one day in that. well move the new guns and boots to balance the game. voices simply left much easier for the public new.au inves to put levels for each conquest. voices made this mess.acho and it is an injustice voices guns and boots of those who spent in the game.It has hangar mk2 today was in the fight, it was nothing won.so the new public of the game wants to conquer this in an easy way, thing that we had no facility. certain hangars the players to arrive in mk2 outside more of years to conquer.

SunsynFF3 months ago

I cannot believe all the people whining about this change, not that I love all of it, but overall it’s a good rebalancing. Tons and tons of people have been screaming for almost a year to fix OP gear like Spectre, Bulg, ST, and Orks. I’m sorry, but when a 11/12mk1 Spectre/Ork can take out a 12mk2 Rajin (highest HP in game) at full health, almost before hitting the ground from a stealth jump, something needs to change. Boo-hoo, you spent too much money on something that got nerfed, that’s life, spending money is a gamble. Plenty of stuff I’ve worked for or spent money on in this game got nerfed, I didn’t cry about it. I’ve got one Spectre, Bulg, Haechi, have some ST, scourges and Orks, all of my weapons and bots are mk1 and I play in Chanp league. I don’t invest in what’s popular or what the top clans have, I invest in weapons/bots I like, are fun to play, and I think have potential. Plus the writing was on the wall, if you couldn’t see nerfs coming for this OP gear then it’s your own fault for wasting time/money to get a bunch of Spectres, Bulgs and STs.

SunsynFF3 months ago

Ty4heat, I know, I have 4 of them. They lowered Ballista’s dmg a bit, but cut the reload time in half, only 5sec to fully charge.

SunsynFF3 months ago

SIDEROBOT, Lag?? Might wanna check your system, I play on PC FBGR, and IOS, have no problem with lag.

✓ilmantux3 months ago

It's necessary to change falcon becouse if you nerf spectre like that and buff falcon like that falcon would be new spectre...

Dennis Vandeneynde3 months ago

Overpowered what about all the long range crap game use to be fun get close up and kick ass now its hide and shoot for other side of the map this game has sucked for some now

Dennis Vandeneynde3 months ago

CRO CUP, Just do what i did find a new game to play i still play but not very much cause of crap just like this and i would never give them another dollar

Diggler3 months ago

You've got to be kidding me. I work my ass off to get three spectres and now you Nerf them to 2 second stealth?? Then you have the fury who's barely usable and you just speed him up a tad ,take a brand new robot and give him Fury slots with jump and invulnerability... Yeah makes perfect sense. how about upgrading some of the old weapons that people spend lots of time on and make them useful again like the trebuchet and the Zeus cannon. Do you guys even play this game?

Dennis Vandeneynde3 months ago

I have spent a few bucks on this game but not much like some of the players and if that is there choice to spend to get what kicks ass and if that works for them great for them i have no problem with it but i have some bad ass bots and there not full mk2 yet and some never will but to me they kick ass and i worked for them hard and for a long time i put in the time and for you to not leave my bots alone that i worked so hard to get cause there over powered is bull shit thats why i worked so hard to get if they were easy to get everyone would have them and they wouldnt be cool to have anymore when i started this game most the bots we have now didnt even exist in this game so to all the whiners out there the bots that are cool cause they kick ass and thats why its hard to get them stop messing with my bots and make matches better Champion League player should not be playing with level 10 players it's that simple if these Bots are all downplayed no one will work hard to get him anymore because nothing will make them any more special than any other bought out there

Dennis Vandeneynde3 months ago

Deadbone, I have not spent much on game but worked may ass off to get my bots so this balance is bull shit if you dont want to spend the cash spend time to get them if it was easy to get everyone would have them and they wouldnt be cool to have anymore

Deadbone3 months ago

This game is no find any more. Even with the balance changes, it takes free players way to long to up grade items. 7 days for 1 level, 6 days for level befote, do some quick math that's almost a month for 1 item. Good by

Grrrega3 months ago

I like this rebalance mostly. Bulwark is going to be great. I would buff Carnage more (maybe increase its speed a bit?). The thing that I miss the most is a significant trident damage buff. Not happening at all, too bad. But still a good rebalance imo.

Zoran Ceranic3 months ago

General Ryandam, You maybe do not have a spectre, haechi, bulgasari so you are wpeaking like this. I played a game many hours and collecting offers, gold...etc. To get this bots so it ia not fer to us players and in the higher leagues so realy play this game and lose so many hour on it. Now some players who just started playing this game are speaking who shoud this game be. This is a joke a moment you make this change i am deinstaling this game and installing BOT.

Death Stalker3 months ago

If you really want to fix something, fix matching. I am really getting tired of going up against all Champion League players with level 12 MK2 Bots and level 12MK2 Equipment when my Hangers are all less than half that. Its like showing up at a gun fight with a stick...!

Death Stalker3 months ago

Nerfing anything would be a breach of faith with those that payed good money for their equipment and robots as well as those that did not spend but rather worked real hard and spent so much time making their robots and equipment better. If you want to make things more balanced, do so by buffing the things that are too low. Just because you were greedy in the beginning does not make your previous mistakes in weapon and robot design our problem. We all realize that to you, this is a business and your goal is to make money but as many have already stated, our spending on this game will decrease, (and many will even quit this game), if you set a precedent where our money and time is so easily wasted. This is just common sense! Wake up Pixonic because I guarantee that your present planned course will definitely wake us up...!

SIDEROBOT3 months ago

Just fix the f****** lag and don't nerf weapons and bots just buff the weaklings so the noobs can compete ok?

SIDEROBOT3 months ago

Sinvraal, Lol your joking me if your problem is spectre having orkan then nerf the spectre not the orkan because griffin orkan cannot kill a rajin in just one shot unlike spectre

PRINCESS-AZULA!!3 months ago

Lahav (Blade), I agree one hundred percent. It is true. DON'T RUIN WEAPONS AND BOTS PEOPLE PAID FOR (shocktrain and spectre). ( TДT)

PRINCESS-AZULA!!3 months ago

This is dumb stop picking on shocktrain and add weather to your maps!

Saief3 months ago

keep the dash bots as they are

Ty4heat3 months ago

And what happend with the ballista? Is it still so bad? Or is it a little bit better because i have it and it sucks so hard.

Saief3 months ago

you are nerfing the bots mercilessly we dont want these kind of rebalance

PRINCESS-AZULA!!3 months ago

This is stupid!! What about us who paid money to get these weapons and robots because they are powerful?!? But now they are weak! And dumb things like nashorn is strong!

Saief3 months ago

pixonic there is no need to nerf this bots. Everyone can gain these bots, sure they are hard to get but the result is as good as it is hard

Monika Arya3 months ago

Stargazer33, That would be interesting, may be another mode like this ....... Not just interesting, but great.

Lahav (Blade)3 months ago

I will say the game is not broken, so why fix it? We all strive to reach higher levels and aquire stronger, more powerful weapons. This takes time and patience but we are all rewarded when we reach that level and become more competitive. That long struggle also makes us better, skilled players. Rebalancing existing bots and weapons is simply not necessary. Pix, you need only to create new bots of an equal balance and ability to take down say, Spectre shocktrain.

If you de-tune existing weapons and bots, you will upset those players whom have invested money or time collecting those superior mechs. Sure, I understand your logic however, if it’s not broken, don’t fix it!

Pilot LAHAV (Blade)

The lil yeeter 3 months ago

So, are molots getting vaulted? Or buffed?

Steve Morrow3 months ago

If you were really interested in balancing the game you’d fix matchmaking. Just another scam to make more money without delivering improved content and better game play.

Exterminator456 3 months ago

This is a good idea, every time they try to make a new thing to counter something that’s too powerful, it just becomes the new meta

JarredC10003 months ago

Aren't... all ambulances mobile? Did they mean mobile hospital, maybe?

CRO CUP3 months ago

That is what pixonic should work on it. Spectre, haechi and buowark is downgrading because pixonic couldnt come out with better dash bots that they will chalenge them. Issue is that guys with money will always be able to afford new bots, and nothing will change, maybe i am wrong, pixonic should make upgrades les expensive, add more gold instead cutting it. This will help players that can not afford to spend money on this game. And upgrade the old bots, so they can be real chalenge for new dash bots.

Agree with you, great idea.

Kilo1alpha3 months ago

I wanted to reply, to share our thoughts on the changes. First lets look at the spectre, this is no doubt a powerful if not the most powerful robot in the game. The thing is that, all its main weapons configurations have been affected by a reduction(taran, shocktrain, orkan, etc.) To reduce its speed i can see that being a push but to reduce its ability to shield itself, after it already has a low hit point, and now even lower hit point is going to render this robot useless. It will turn it into the griffin, extinct. The reduction in the avenger is something that should not be done, this is the first heavy weapon that has come along and made it fun, besides the ember, and exodus this weapon was really fun to use. Reducing it will turn it into one of those lost weapons like that rocket launcher that fired all three rockets...what was that called again? Reducing the heachi's shield is not a bad idea. Decreasing its dash time production is pointless, reducing its hit points would make this another robot that no one will get much like the spectre. The bulgasari, first off this robot was pointless to even address. It was slow and it dashed, i get that if you walked at an angle you could use your shield but let me use my rockets and it didnt really matter how cool you walked away. The natasha should really be worked on, maybe an increase in speed would bring this robot back. The point is bring back the days of the teaming balls to the wall brawling. This shooting from the side, splashing damage from behind you, hide and go seek gameplay is what ruined this game. Dont lower the rockets power eliminate the splash damage. Dont slow down robots, reduce their abilites, or ruin set ups, in order to sell your new bots or new weapons. Create robots to hunt those powerful robots down. Go back to the main line up of robots and upgrade them, make them the headhunters of the spectres and heachi. Give the griffin a energy shield or the raijin more speed and the ability to have its physical shield up while it moved. Or even something as letting the rhino turn while running and adding two more medium weapons and removing the light weapons, and let that chase the spectre. The point is to make this fun for many more generations, while keeping it interesting. Not turnnning it into a sales dept. I have one game on my phone it is this one, my son and I habe played this for years. We asked for action figures years ago, and took in all channels and upgrades in stride. The changes have mutated this game, my son no longer plays due to cheating and the inability to control MKII level players from lower tier players. This is the real issue, not the complaints of your champion level, i have bought it all players. You created a game that was supposes to last, not lose itself like so many others. War Robots was supposed to so much more, to last to be one of a kind. The next mario borthers or zelda, not lost like Modern warfare and many greats.

Stargazer333 months ago

So now I've just sold all my lower hp bots and long range heavy weapons because they are no match for the new bots and weapons, you're changing the balance! The only descent bot I've got is my Griffin with level 10 Orkans and Pinatas and you're cutting both weapons hit points! Thanks!

Why not stop matching players with multiple hangers with Mk2 level 12 bots equipped with Mk2 level 12 weapons with players running one hanger with Mk1 level 8-10 bots equipped with Mk1 level 8-10 weapons! In other words match the bots/weapons instead of the league's.

CRO CUP3 months ago

I Am Pacifist, I read end user license and agreement, comment is all about to stop spending money on pixonic. No one trying to sue them, they are rich and have many loyers. But we can stop spending money on pixonic

CRO CUP3 months ago

Vastah Van der Blastah, Vastah van ther blastah.

I have big house, nice car, great family, my corner is beutifull. I guess you are to I mature to understand my comment, so i will not put my self down firing back with your ugly childest comments.

Grown up and take life as is, learn some respect for others and your self.

I Am Pacifist3 months ago

CRO CUP, Have you ever,ever read that long payment bill like sheet called as END USER LICENSE AGREEMENT (EULA) and some other agreements of this type. By reading you and some other people's comment it is clear that the answer is a NO. So in short you cannot sue any company to downgrade their product because they have right to do it as long as the company do not harass your rights. For example - I have a blurr image of a report which says that biggest company on earth Apple releases some updates for their old iOS phones which causes slowness of the processor and affects battery performance so people buy their new iphones. Another example is that one of the Samsung Galaxy model phone (I don't know accurate name of model) has problem of battery explosion so to solve this problem Samsung releases a patch which prohibits the battery to charge more than 60 percent which is clearly a downgrade after you purchased it.
Note - The information above is based on what I have read many years ago so happening of mistakes is natural because of my memory. Please forgive me for any of my mistakes and feel free to correct me and my information.

I Am Pacifist3 months ago

CRO CUP, Have you ever,ever read that long payment bill like sheet called as END USER LICENSE AGREEMENT (EULA) and some other agreements of this type. By reading you and some other people's comment it is clear that the answer is a NO. So in short you cannot sue any company to downgrade their product because they have right to do it as long as the company do not harass your rights. For example - I have a blurr image of a report which says that biggest company on earth Apple releases some updates for their old iOS phones which causes slowness of the processor and affects battery performance so people buy their new iphones. Another example is that one of the Samsung Galaxy model phone (I don't know accurate name of model) has problem of battery explosion so to solve this problem Samsung releases a patch which prohibits the battery to charge more than 60 percent which is clearly a downgrade after you purchased it.
Note - The information above is based on what I have read many years ago so happening of mistakes is natural because of my memory. Please forgive me for any of my mistakes and feel free to correct me and my information.

I Am Pacifist3 months ago

CRO CUP, Have you ever,ever read that long payment bill like sheet called as END USER LICENSE AGREEMENT (EULA) and some other agreements of this type. By reading you and some other people's comment it is clear that the answer is a NO. So in short you cannot sue any company to downgrade their product because they have right to do it as long as the company do not harass your rights. For example - I have a blurr image of a report which says that biggest company on earth Apple releases some updates for their old iOS phones which causes slowness of the processor and affects battery performance so people buy their new iphones. Another example is that one of the Samsung Galaxy model phone (I don't know accurate name of model) has problem of battery explosion so to solve this problem Samsung releases a patch which prohibits the battery to charge more than 60 percent which is clearly a downgrade after you purchased it.
Note - The information above is based on what I have read many years ago so happening of mistakes is natural because of my memory. Please forgive me for any of my mistakes and feel free to correct me and my information.

I Am Pacifist3 months ago

CRO CUP, Have you ever,ever read that long payment bill like sheet called as END USER LICENSE AGREEMENT (EULA) and some other agreements of this type. By reading you and some other people's comment it is clear that the answer is a NO. So in short you cannot sue any company to downgrade their product because they have right to do it as long as the company do not harass your rights. For example - I have a blurr image of a report which says that biggest company on earth Apple releases some updates for their old iOS phones which causes slowness of the processor and affects battery performance so people buy their new iphones. Another example is that one of the Samsung Galaxy model phone (I don't know accurate name of model) has problem of battery explosion so to solve this problem Samsung releases a patch which prohibits the battery to charge more than 60 percent which is clearly a downgrade after you purchased it.
Note - The information above is based on what I have read many years ago so happening of mistakes is natural because of my memory. Please forgive me for any of my mistakes and feel free to correct me and my information.

Vastah Van der Blastah3 months ago

Panzer, Panzer, you are getting the point and I salute you for taking a hit like this and being so sportmanlike about it.

Vastah Van der Blastah3 months ago

CRO CUP, How about you sit back down in your ugly corner and stuff that mk.2 shocktrains where the light doesn't shine.

I just came out of a game where the oppossing team had 5 spectres with shocktrains jumping around the backline and that was it.

Pathetic n00b cocktrains no skill involved FYI we killed every last one of them.
But was it fun? NO
Should this be nerfed? YES

And if you payed money for it then that's too bad. Think of all the players that were spending but were run out of this game by the dullness of facing yet another spectre shocktrain build.

This was a long time coming, a good game and game designer tailor their mechanics to evolve their meta and make sure multiple options are viable.
Something Pixonic has been found wanting for a long time now. About time they cleaned up this mess.

As it stands, WWR evolves around spectres, either with shocktrains, hydras or with orkans. No other bot stands a chance anymore. This is destroying the player base.

I Am Pacifist3 months ago

Panzer, This is the first confession I read of any 'whale' in this forum. I agreed with your opinion because every coin has 2 faces. Pixoshit's (I always call them by this name) most apex obligation is to satisfy both money payers and time payers players equally. However I still think money payers are more stupid and irrational then time payers because money payers give their reality (money which costs both hard work and time) to buy their virtuality (gold, bot etc.). On the other side time is not a matter, it moves in one way linear direction so if we do not spend our time on this app then still our time is spending on other works, we cannot stop spending of our time but we can spend our time to make money instead of giving money to buy virtuality.

CRO CUP3 months ago

I have spend some money and time for upgrade on this game sins last three years. I have 5 hungers, 8 spectre with orkans, tarans, shocks scourges, tulumbas all mk2 . Also many other great bots with best weapons. I can understand that many players can not spend money have problems fighting against best mk bots, so they asking pixonic to decrease certain bots and weapons. If you was playing for 3 years, and know how to save gold, silver, use pixonic events,even with out spending money, you can have great 2 hangers full of mk dash bots with mk weapons.

War Robots members that purchase bots , weapons, then pixonic downgrade them, they should be credited back by pixonic for each bot, weapon, and them time that spend upgrading them. It is like fals advertisement. I sale you bot, you buy it, then i downgrade 10% or more from that bot or weapon, but i dont pay you back 10% of your money , gold and time that you spend on it.
This is shamefull from pixonic, you just stole are money and time. It is milions of dollars that pixonic make on us with out giving us what we deserve for are money.
They downgrade bots not because you asking, because they will push you to spend more money on new better bots and upgrades that they will realise, and new bots and weapons are popping out like a mushroms.

When you buy a car, did you dealer come to your home, and downgrade engine on your car for 10% ot more? Think about it!!!

Dont spend money, complain, leave comments, and ask pixonic to do something, it will just get worst for you. Till then you will have always same issues.

Message to pixonic: Instead you downgrading are investments, why dont you upgrade are old investment?
Afraid of losing some money?

Best to all members.

I Am Pacifist3 months ago

I saw the sheet but their are no Griffin and Leo buffs present in the data. At least give a fancy animation to the poor Griffin. Now, back to the point in my opinion orkan nerf is too much, avenger nerf is not needed same as dragoon buff is not needed and bulgasari shield buff is a clear joke. I do not own a single spectre or haechi but still I feel that the nerf hammer will shatter them in fine crystals, poor pay to win chaps. Overall 90 percent changes are rational and acceptable. I pleasantly welcome this update, by the way do you ever mind to fix the blacked out screen issue and the crashing of app on the Rome map......... Yes sir, since 4.0 when Rome map launched these issues also came with that update. Regards.

General Ryandam3 months ago

You know what? I’m happy. This is the first time these comments haven’t been all terrible, you broke the game, Pixo sucks, etc. For once, and this is really a change, everyone is thankful. Thankful that Pixonic, the company hated for its greed, is getting somewhere.
Thanks a bunch.

WARDOG3 months ago

Kaiser, Just get a Lancelot... I'm pretty sure they won't do this do to it being so mobile and powerful then...

Panzer3 months ago

I’m a wallet warrior, big time, I say bring it on, it’s about time, overpowered is boring, unfair one sided advantage is boring, and frustrating as hell for the person on the flip side of that. This is a move in the right direction for sure. This might just turn into a really good thing for all of us.

Panzer3 months ago

jakima, Your Spector with orkans is way overpowered, there is not a bot in the game that can survive those 4 missle pods being unloaded into it, that bot should not even been introduced into the game, at the very least it should have been restricted and not allowed to carry four of certain weapons, like orkans and Tarans. And before you think it doesn’t affect me , I have 3 spectors, I spent dollars on them and other stuff that’s about to take the nerf hammer, I’m glad they are finally addressing the one sided advantage happening in game, give it a chance, it should make the game better for everyone.

Panzer3 months ago

woodscrapswork, I spend a ton, because I can presently afford too, I say nerf/buff away. No wallet warriors equals no game, no free to play players equals no game. Like it or not we need each other, the person who spent 100’s of hours building his hanger deserves to be able to be competitive just as much as the person who dropped a ton of cash on all the latest and greatest weapons and bots. Either way it’s an investment, and it takes all of us to keep the game running period. We need each other and we should just try to get along and have fun. I said I dropped a ton on the game, but the second all the free to play peeps give up in frustration, the que times are forever, then the fun stops and I’m out. We need each other, let’s start thinking that way.

woodscrapswork3 months ago

Attn: whining wallet warriors.
Every time something new/better is released, y'all whine 'bout how much ya spent on the last batch of new stuff and how it suddenly isn't the best.
What do y'all expect pixonic to do if everytime they put something new on the menu, ya buy it? They're gonna rework the menu as often as is feasible...
...cuz they know statistically that there is no shortage of retards willing to spend REAL $ on IMAGINARY gold.
...cuz they know statistically that no matter how much cryin y'all do and threats to quit y'all make, next month, you'll give em part of your paycheck (or your birthday $ or Christmas $ if you're still a kid) so you can have status in their IMAGINARY world...

Wallet Warriors are what drive pixonic's economy, that's the reality because making $ is the primary reason most any company or corporation is ever formed in the first place.
I spent 99 cents for 100 keys to get my bonus task 500 Au once. I'm ok with that. Didn't plan on spending real $ in game and likely won't again, but I'm satisfied that I got a decent deal.

Play or quit.
Spend your money here or spend it elsewhere.
Whine, make threats and throw fits, or pull your heads out.

Whatever dudes, ...to each, his own...

Just wrap your heads around the fact that this is a game. It's lasting effect on our lives is most likely the 1000's of hours of time wasted and not invested in meaningful pursuits.

later all

Monika Arya3 months ago

... and i agree the biggest problem are farmers, at least below top leagues, completely spoiling everything. New weapons and bots may be little op and rebalancing is welcome. But when you get in battle with someone who is 2 years ahead of you , that is really crazy OP. And it is like every second battle here . Like all our team plays silver bots and we get all killed by 1 haechi mk2, in silver league.Sooo frustrating. Isn't it reason to give up for some or many?

One easy thing that would help regulate this :

when one loses battle , one gets only -1 or -2 league points,
This would make purposeful descending league very difficult , for most not worthy the effort.
For 1 farming winning battle playing to lose 10 battles? Not worthy the effort. 😊

Les Harrison3 months ago

I've tried nice comments, constructive comments, pointed detailed comments, long rants, everything in between.... Pixonic's bottom line is "how can we make more $".... if there's anything else then I haven't seen it. they alter the game to make more MONEY, PERIOD. Bitching, pointing things out, hell, detailed video from THEIR OWN TEST SERVER PEOPLE won't fix anything !! The final solution is to stop spending money and MAYBE they will listen.

Kaiser3 months ago

Can you please make changes to the Galahad? Change his weapon slots to 1 heavy 2 medium. He would be a contender again in the higher leagues. It would be fun to use him again.

Thank you.

ZkimeKK3 months ago

I love the Heavy Ver. Falcon. I have spent almost 6 month to get it and I think Falco is the coolest robot in the game. But it is too weak to fight in the battle now.

Monika Arya3 months ago

Why is Avenger the only heavy weapon that gets decreased damage? All other hevyes getting increased damage?

Chau3 months ago

So when will we be able to produce Halo, Corona and Glory components in our workshop? and why is it not available to begin with?

Cartman Beefcake 3 months ago

Thanks for getting back to game rebalancing. I think some map spawn locations for some game modes could use a rework again, also. Well done!

Scorpius3 months ago

What about Zenit and Noricum? Using these is like throwing pebbles at the ocean. "Plunging fire". That means the rounds fall in an almost vertical downward direction,like artillery. Modern artillery is almost pinpoint accurate,but the accuracy on these is horrible. It's bad enough you have to lead moving targets,but someone stationary behind cover should be easy hits.PLEASE,PLEASE,increase accuracy or radius of explosion effect! Or decrease reload times.or speed up rounds,something, ANYTHING. thanks for your time and consideration.

Grinder3 months ago

Rebalance? Is just another word for “pay-to-players here is another chance to spend money”. Grinders didn’t complain about these bots - we went and got one or two and then also began smashing opponents. We were smashed for a long time and when we can finally smash back...nerf time. Thanks for nothing. Grinders are the people that play this game for hours to catch up to those that pay...thanks for the reward.

Bot for sale3 months ago

We have been here before. New weapons and new bots that are op so people will buy them and then they get nerfed.

Pilot Melga3 months ago

You really don’t need to nerf the Avenger....it’s not that good. You see very few in higher leagues. Why Buff the Molot and Tempest but Nerf the Avenger?

Rajinplayer3 months ago

Hey pixonic
I love the new stuff that you have added
However







It is hard to use the workshop with the current economy


For example
To get a dragoon for 100 components an order
You must spend














42,000,000 SILVER

DIVIDED BY HOW MANY BATTLES THAT IS IF AN AVERAGE BATTLE IS 100,000 silver
That is 420 battles

We just don’t have that time or that silver


Please fix this

CorpseMourne3 months ago

Oh boy, the dragoon buff = no more brawling. Unless your bot can teleport across the field = I need ravens!

Lisa Schwarz3 months ago

Server down. Danger Will Robinson, danger!

CorpseMourne3 months ago

Whoa... the redeemer buff means at level 12 you're looking at 111,400 damage in one cycle!? Two of those and a couple shredders on a Nat = Redemption! That right there is going to be a popular weapon. Still kind of sad about the avenger nerf though. Looks like my lead hose Leo is going to have to become a Redemption Leo as well.

David Sumler3 months ago

Amentoe, Arbalest damage got nerfed but its charge time got CUT IN HALF. Chill

David Sumler3 months ago

FANTASTIC! So tired of seeing spectre orkans everywhere. I hope we don't start seeing only persuers with gust/halo now though that's even more annoying...

CorpseMourne3 months ago

Sooo the avenger got nerfed and now does less damage than the punisher T? Silly PIx, don't nerf the avenger. Would be nice to see more lead hoses on the battlefield. Love the shocktrain and spectre nerfs tho. Would like to see shocktrain nerfed even more.

Pilot Melga3 months ago

Hey Pixonic, what happened to the much needed Trident and Thunder buff?? The Trident is still in desperate need of the Talumba style firing mechanism and would get used more if it got a damage buff. Thunder needs consideration too.

Pilot Melga3 months ago

I think this is absolutely needed. Above expert it’s boring, boring, boring! Spectre after Spectre after Spectre with Orkans or Shocktrains. It was never supposed to be like that...one robot dominating all. It really limits the game as there are plenty of potentially fun and interesting robots to play. However, as people are more interested in winning and maintaining their position in the leagues, nobody uses them as we know they will just get trashed by Spectre Orkan (close up) or Spectre Shocks (mid-range). When a Spectre can kill a Mk 2 level 12 Ancilot with one Orkan salvo, there has to be a rebalance. The fun in this game used to be the variety of bots and weapons that were all viable, allowing you to mix and change and experiment. Now to be a top champion the formula is simple......a 5 Spectre hanger with shocks or orkans and an average pilot can rule. Bots die too quickly so there’s no ‘fight’ as such, just leaping, cloaked annihilation. BORING!

Dwayne Hicks3 months ago

So I have to agree with my fellow users. If they paid money for something, changing it for the sake of game-play is questionable. I would like to once again recommend shifting your approach to BATTLEVALUE. By changing the battlevalue of robots and weapons, you automatically adjust the experience someone does/does not received without having to change the 'bots or weaponary. Example: If the Spectre is showing to be overwhelming, fine...adjust tune down the XP the bot earns while dialing up the amount you get for hitting it. BattleValue allows players to have their cake, and eat it too.

✓ilmantux3 months ago

Make on test server hover with tree medium weapons I think this can make to go hover to champ league

Shoval Horovitz3 months ago

Hellyea, didnt u see? it gets to max power twice as fast. this doubles its firepower. however max power is reduced so its not actually double.

Amentoe3 months ago

What does this update mean for a novice player like me who only played a few months?

I will take my hangar as an example.
Bucht (Trebuchet / Zeus) - Griffin (Spiral / Hydra) - Pursuer (Gust) - Stalker (Pinata)

---------------- Balance provided in preliminary sheet, as it affects me.

WEAPONS
> Piñata.- low damage of 1000> 910 - Bffff :(
> Gust.- low damage of 3429> 3239 - Bffff :(
> Hydra.- Increases firing time of 0.8s> 1.1s - Bfffff :(

* Rest of weapons of the list only dream of them: I have some Arbalest, Aphid... and it turns out that they also lower their damage. - Bffff :(

ROBOTS
> None of my bots have changes. But three of four will have less attack capacity. Only my Natasha from the warehouse will need a helmet to run 3Km/h more. - Bfff :(

SUMMARY: great balance, but not for me. Every day a reason not to play. I'm sad.


* Excuse the translation

Lemaypsq3 months ago

Well the truth is that finally some balance to the battlefield is coming, and I've spent A LOT of cash too guys, but only to upgrade my all school robots and weapons since I always thought it was unfair the fact that some simple new robots (Spectre, Haechi) were crazy superior to legendary ones like Leo or Fujin, so I never went for the new ones. I think though that anyone who spent money on such new machines should get compensated, that's truth. You bought a Ferrari, why giving you a Skoda now, like The Mighty Boosh said. Cheers

Qeqi3 months ago

I dont underatant why nerf the bots when you can just nerf the weapons.Nerf the Orkans and shocktrains and the game will be better in instant.Nerf the weapons like they were when you could not kill a bot with just a fire button.And then the older bot will come again even the shielded bots if you nerf orkans

Spelltinkle3 months ago

Nothing for Tridents? Maybe a faster reload, or a bit more damage?

Gregory Master3 months ago

Hellyea, And the Dragoon, which already does massive amounts of damage but few people run, is somehow getting massively buffed. Cool. This is a money-grab. Once everyone has paid for what USED TO BE premium weapons, they nerf them and make other weapons superior so that people will buy the new ones.

Gregory Master3 months ago

If Pix is going to take away the combat power of stuff that we worked hard to get (or even paid actual money to get) because they TOLD US it would be a superior weapon, why can't they at least give us some game currency to level up or buy different stuff?

Hellyea3 months ago

I agree about the farmers. Once you hit the higher league you shouldn't be able to drop down and whipe out everyone with 1 shot. I had to deal with them coming up thru the ranks. If they lose more than 10 matches in a row and there in last place in all 10 their account should be suspended or if they do like I've seen use 1 bot in the beginning of the match and blow up the rest. They get 1 beacon maybe shoot 1 opponent.

Hellyea3 months ago

Their making spec even slower plus stealth 2 sec. Wow I hope these figures change they're ruining the game. Tarans I don't even use them but they're whacking them again.
Here's a idea Pix how about no upgrades you just make them the way you want with the weapons you wants us to use no changing anything. That's the way you're heading

The Mighty Boosh3 months ago

war of the gods , Great point, re "Farmers" forget re balancing, this is what's making the game suck. Work out a way to punish this style of play. Stick anyone who is doing this in a league of their own and then they can't ruin everyone else's game

Hellyea3 months ago

Arblaest is getting whacked lmao that weapon already sucks and their making it worse !!! LMAO

The Mighty Boosh3 months ago

Been playing for 2 years first on iPad for a year and then on Gamesroom because my iPad stopped being supported. I spend a fortune the first time and since being on Gamesroom I've spend the last year getting my ass kicked by the new bots and then after spending hours busting my hump and another fortune, I've finally got a Spectre and a Bulgasari. I know find out I shouldn't have bothered I just had to wait for them to be made just as shite as the old robots I've been struggling with. I think for anyone who's paid money to get the upper hand on the battlefield should be compensated. You don't buy a Ferrari and then a few weeks later wake up to a Skoda and accepted it. I don't know about everyone else but I paid for a Ferrari (Spectre, Bulgasari) I want what I paid for or my money back!!!!!!!

호호맨이야3 months ago

I've been a tester?
You are failing in your service score to customers.
You should thank the users for using the incomplete game.

Gregory Master3 months ago

Holy crap.... look how much durability they took off the Bulgasari. Sure am glad I got one... :(
Physical shield durability 238400 >169000
Durability 149000 > 137000

Gregory Master3 months ago

So now all of the good stuff that I've been busting my ass to acquire has become ordinary. Fuckin' awesome!

Hellyea3 months ago

Honestly if they do nerf specs I will not spend a single dollar on this game again. They need to figure out another way to get their Russan rubles

Hellyea3 months ago

They won't rebalance them we've already paid for those.

Robert Baugher3 months ago

The rebalancing should have been on the older robots making them more powerful to meet up with the newer robots. My old robots like leo and griffin are mk2 level 11 and yet they r being destroyed like gnats vs the heiche and spectre with their non mk2 level

Hellyea3 months ago

What I don't understand is they have 3 different class weapons but heavy doesn't really hit any harder than a light weapon. Maybe you should rebalance that Pix. Or since now it takes 2 years and a billion in silver to mk2 a bot how about 2 or 3 weapons upgrading at the same time. You made it easier for us to get the new weapons and bots which is great but now we can't upgrade to a high enough lvl to use until they're already outdated. I'm a champ I can't take a lvl 6 or 8 into a fight I might as well use spit wads

Hellyea3 months ago

I will tell you this much Pix you make these changes, I will NOT EVER spend another dollar on this game again !!! I have 4 specs now at lvl 11 103k damage that is already low damage for a medium robot. You reduce that even more there won't be a reason for playing with them anymore, I'm glad I haven't started mk2 my shocks yet also hearing what you have planned.
I agree with what I saw in another post how about a Facebook vote so we can see how ppl are complaining about the robots damage.
You're stirring up a hornets nest with this one Pix you might want to rethink how many times you can kick it before you get stung.

Jc2643 months ago

Now with the changing economy and new workshop any one can have a spectre or heichi so why the shit re balancing? Basically now you want us to spend money on other bots as we already have these dash bots... Right? Make Lance and bullwork stronger but don't downgrade others.

Saief3 months ago

Why do you have to balance the new stuff ? Think it through from our point of view I just got a bulgasari after playing really hard and you nerf it's power all my hard work go to waste you want rebalance than buff older bots you are buffing bulwark and making it the next powerful bot we don't want any rebalance of new stuff except the shocktrains we want rebalance of new economy and older stuffs pls war robots team don't ruin the fun of the game anymore!

Jc2643 months ago

Make spectre dissappear from WR, the orkan spectre can kill any bot but once the stealth drops and orkan Salvo is slow on regeneration the spectre is a one hit kill. Only the spectre ST is devastating, jump hit and hide. Now with less speed, lesser stealth duration and already little health, you guys are making it useless, is this re balancing? If so then increase the health of spector so that it can survive a little long, we have 3 long range maps and it require no skill to kill a spector or heichi on those maps unless they have ST and they stay at 500 mtr distance.. Well consider those things... Try to make other bots stronger and do some thing with the shocktrains but I don't think spectre is a op bot coz it has 4 medium slots unless you play FFA, which is a play ground of orkan spectre. FFA is a special game if you kill someone with spectre and in that process you runs out of stealth, there is no one to take revenge on you unless the person you killed spawns right behind you so spectre magic works. It's ST guys not the spectre which is op..

SlickDick763 months ago

Juan Díaz, I agree jaun and whats the point ? lets make the new Bots Weak and the weapons weak and make the old bots and weapons Strong!! This is ridiculous!!!! Im sorry

SlickDick763 months ago

Mike Hill, No i say let them add more levels to the cheaper bots like wtf thats why we waited amd were happy when New bots came out now there just gonna make the old bots stronger or the new bots weaker vise versa same shit

SlickDick763 months ago

Lets take a second to think about this now i know i remember how much monwy and time it cost me to get the equipment and uograded to the levels they are NOW, and just because some noobs are crying cause there bots are weak your gonna start this lowering of power on weapons? Seriously? Let people learn hiw to play, of course if you run out into an orkan barrage you should be dead lmao. Your gonna Ruin the Game, RoBo SLASHER OuT

Juan Díaz3 months ago

Many of us invested time to get to bulgasari, specter and haechi, because they were the best bot, and now you make them the worst. I think they must stop with so much change they do not see that they are killing the taste of playing war robot. What they should do is reduce the times of the improvements or at least allow to improve more than one weapon or robot, that would be a good change.

Garunix9993 months ago

Punkah, If your clan wants to quit because of a spectre nerf, they they can go rot in hell. People like that do not deserve the privelige of using such a powerful bot

Garunix9993 months ago

Punkah, If your clan wants to quit because of a spectre nerf, they they can go rot in hell. People like that do not deserve the privelige of using such a powerful bot

Garunix9993 months ago

Punkah, If your clan wants to quit because of a spectre nerf, they they can go rot in hell. People like that do not deserve the privelige of using such a powerful bot

Garunix9993 months ago

Punkah, If your clan wants to quit because of a spectre nerf, they they can go rot in hell. People like that do not deserve the privelige of using such a powerful bot

Garunix9993 months ago

Punkah, If your clan wants to quit because of a spectre nerf, they they can go rot in hell. People like that do not deserve the privelige of using such a powerful bot

Garunix9993 months ago

Punkah, If your clan wants to quit because of a spectre nerf, they they can go rot in hell. People like that do not deserve the privelige of using such a powerful bot

Garunix9993 months ago

SIDEROBOT, So you complain about the orkan nerf, but then nerf the level 8 to 2400 dps?

Garunix9993 months ago

An even better idea. Just revert the game back to version 3.0

Sinvraal3 months ago

SIDEROBOT, Have you ever play a robot without dash getting hit by orkans on spectre? Guess what happens? You die. Even if you have mk 2 raijin. You just die. You can’t dodgr, you can’t fight back. That’s it. Game over. Orkan nerf extremely needed.

Sinvraal3 months ago

⚒Texas✯Rage⚒™, It’s true! Look at the speed buffs on fatty natty and the furry!

The bulwark is a veritable cruise missile now. It lumbers along faster than haechi lol

SIDEROBOT3 months ago

Orkan is massively nerf and it is unfair for orkan user like me...
I recommend level 8 orkans should be:
1300>1200 instead of 1300>1150
0.1>0.5 instead of 0.1>0.11

SIDEROBOT3 months ago

Orkan is massively nerf and it is unfair for orkan user like me...
I recommend level 8 orkans should be:
1300>1200 instead of 1300>1150
0.1>0.5 instead of 0.1>0.11

SIDEROBOT3 months ago

Orkan is massively nerf and it is unfair for orkan user like me...
I recommend level 8 orkans should be:
1300>1200 instead of 1300>1150
0.1>0.5 instead of 0.1>0.11

war of the gods 3 months ago

I find that some rebalances are more like it is haechi and bulgasari what is good is to lower weapons like scorgue and shoctrain because they make it an uneven battle if there are squadrons with those weapons to mk2, the taran for me is fine and the orkan I do not know why they lowered the damage and recharged the weapons that should lower the damage is to hydras and dragoon since they are very op and all this started thanks to you allowing the payment to get better weapons and robots. and what they should regulate is the descent of drivers from high leagues to lower leagues "Farmers" as they do it to take advantage of inexperienced pilots and get better results in battle.

Noriega723 months ago

Nooooooobody asked to nerf these weapons! You have no proof of that! Do a PUBLIC, I repeat, do a PUBLIC poll on Facebook and then we can actually se the truth! Everything on Pixonic is "they said", "we heard", "if nobody is online...". If you wanna change things, do public polls where we can actually have proof of that.

⚒Texas✯Rage⚒™3 months ago

This is going to be interesting..

War Robots [WR] 🆔: P3W9KI
Platform: Android

Sinvraal3 months ago

You guys forgot about raijin? How come all the other old bots excluding raijin got buffed?

How about alittle love to the big fat spider?

Lan Mandragoran3 months ago

This whole arcticle is nonsesnse, Dash bots are still alright Descend b

Punkah3 months ago

People been telling you bout OP spectres and everything forever. At that time you already knew it was screwing the game, but you didnt care cause $$$. All those stupid articles about crystal tiger and etc.. Now that everyone invested heavily on those bots and weapons, you do that? Half my clan said they would quit right away if spectres be nerfed they way its said to happen. 2 lawyers inside the clan said it will be the easier international class lawsuit ever. Anyone that invested hundreds or thousands of dollars will get on board. Wanna bring balance back to the game? BUFF old robots and weapons.

Alan Salguero3 months ago

Imaginen el dinero que gastaron las personas todo este tiempo para conseguir haechi,espectre,inquistor, bulgasari etc.
El tiempo que han gastado para que ahora así como así una Natasha pueda matar un espectre Orkans o un leo matar a un inquisitor,para mí que esto no está nada bien, esta bien que suban los bots viejos pero eso ya es demaciado se pasaron.

Alan Salguero3 months ago

Imaginen el dinero que gastaron las personas todo este tiempo para conseguir haechi,espectre,inquistor, bulgasari etc.
El tiempo que han gastado para que ahora así como así una Natasha pueda matar un espectre Orkans o un leo matar a un inquisitor,para mí que esto no está nada bien, esta bien que suban los bots viejos pero eso ya es demaciado se pasaron.

Alan Salguero3 months ago

Imaginen el dinero que gastaron las personas todo este tiempo para conseguir haechi,espectre,inquistor, bulgasari etc.
El tiempo que han gastado para que ahora así como así una Natasha pueda matar un espectre Orkans o un leo matar a un inquisitor,para mí que esto no está nada bien, esta bien que suban los bots viejos pero eso ya es demaciado se pasaron.

Alan Salguero3 months ago

Imaginen el dinero que gastaron las personas todo este tiempo para conseguir haechi,espectre,inquistor, bulgasari etc.
El tiempo que han gastado para que ahora así como así una Natasha pueda matar un espectre Orkans o un leo matar a un inquisitor,para mí que esto no está nada bien, esta bien que suban los bots viejos pero eso ya es demaciado se pasaron.

Alan Salguero3 months ago

Imaginen el dinero que gastaron las personas todo este tiempo para conseguir haechi,espectre,inquistor, bulgasari etc.
El tiempo que han gastado para que ahora así como así una Natasha pueda matar un espectre Orkans o un leo matar a un inquisitor,para mí que esto no está nada bien, esta bien que suban los bots viejos pero eso ya es demaciado se pasaron.

Alan Salguero3 months ago

Imaginen el dinero que gastaron las personas todo este tiempo para conseguir haechi,espectre,inquistor, bulgasari etc.
El tiempo que han gastado para que ahora así como así una Natasha pueda matar un espectre Orkans o un leo matar a un inquisitor,para mí que esto no está nada bien, esta bien que suban los bots viejos pero eso ya es demaciado se pasaron.

Alan Salguero3 months ago

Imaginen el dinero que gastaron las personas todo este tiempo para conseguir haechi,espectre,inquistor, bulgasari etc.
El tiempo que han gastado para que ahora así como así una Natasha pueda matar un espectre Orkans o un leo matar a un inquisitor,para mí que esto no está nada bien, esta bien que suban los bots viejos pero eso ya es demaciado se pasaron.

I Am Pacifist3 months ago

I didn't find any preliminary rebalance sheet.

Jose G. Olivares Chiang3 months ago

I think Pixonic just don´t know what to do to sell more. My advise, stop creating so many new things(atleast for a while), and let the players adjuste of the last changes,beside, the message is clear,"we couldn´t sell what we expected with the new bots and weapons,son lets make em OP",come on guys,the Bullwarth,dragoons are already OP.I know it´s a business,but come on, think more about the players instead of your own pocket, that btw, you have made alot already. Cheers

Vizmo3 months ago

Thank you.

Jose Arreola3 months ago

La verdad esque, me afectó en gran parte ya que invertí en spectre y haechi, y como les bajaran la vida al spectre el stealth y taradara mas el dash en los ots creo que si de verdad afecto a muchos, Talvez será el regreso de la vieja escuela nose....pero de lo que estoy seguro esque ahorita el juego es una m#%&a
Ojala y tambien tomen en cuenta regresar el oro alas cartas que abrias con tokens, y que ya no nos jodan con otras cosas¿Que sigue? ahora la plata?

JhonCatter3 months ago

you should mention that they will present to members a generous amount of silver, all the bots that I have will be harmed, all those I had to work hard to get them and now you will end up with my hangar. So it gets hard, my phone battery is hooked and I do not have enough free time to play, I will not spend another year and a half remodeling my hangar.

Mateusz Mateusz3 months ago

No rebalance! Shorter & cheeper update!
I’m trying to update DESTIRER to mk3 for a MONTH! (Becouse it cost too much silver)

Soul metal3 months ago

return the last economy pliiis

Yamumsplace3 months ago

Finally!!! Bring back some equality. I use dash and old bots but love old bots so much more. Have been causing havoc with a simple Boa with two machine guns and tearing new assholes in plenty of spectres and haechi with okrans. If there are two weapons that need to be nerfed it’s orkans and tarin. These are like stronger than most heavy weapons which is absurd. No wonder the gamesmanship has gone to the dogs. Keep rebalancing I say, and bad luck to everyone that forked out a bunch of cash (don’t worry I have actually spent some myself) as it’s caveat emptor to you guys. Such is life...

Mike Hill3 months ago

Pixonic here is some feed back from an avid player. I'm all for balance changes but I'd rather see an older bot buffed than all my new bots nerfed. Keep the new gear where it is unless it needs a slight buff like the hell burner or other new bot you think need a minor increases and bring the older stuff up to that level with speed, HP and ability tweaks. That way all of us who spent so much time and effort don't feel like we just got slapped in the face. I also feel like a lot of the weapons you plan to buff so they can be a viable option are in fact already great the problem is the economy why would I spend ridiculous amounts of time and silver upgrading an exodus or a spark or the new lock down weapons when there are MUCH CHEAPER alternatives that still work great. Balance is important but most of us also consider the cost of upgrades and time when we plan a build. Example exodus furry is a great set up for beacon defense but I will not even attempt to level up 3 exodus to mk2 level 12. I did the math it would take over a year and over a billion silver no thanks I'd rather use a cheaper bot that is almost as good. You might also see people use older gear if it was drastically cheaper to level Example under the old economy punishes cost the same to level as turrans, why use a punisher when I could level a turran that is better for the same price. I really hope this helps because that's what it's meant for not to bust you guys down you have made vast improvements to the game recently and a few set backs (economy change). Overall listen to the players and the games player base and your revenue will both be happy.

Shaun Finnegan3 months ago

You are ultimately doing the right thing. I knew investing my resources into Falcon would pay off. I’m confused, falcon will now have 3 heavies?

A beautiful rajin3 months ago

Hmm, good idea, good execution, how you gonna f%&$ this up this time?

MechKiller 3 months ago

What you're doing is a crime. my lawyer said you can not sell a product and then suddenly change its attributes. If they do, I will not have the same robot I got with my money at the time of purchase. This is absurd and if you realize this update I want all my money back

Tatsumi 3 months ago

Entiendo que quieran quitar daño a algunas armas pero porque a la orkan debería de centrarse en quitarle daño a la scour y shocktrain la o las armarmas que tenga un rango mayor de 800mtrs y si quieren meter nueva variedad esta bien pero generalmente los mapas nuevos que inplementan son de rango muy largo y para que que bajarle las estadísticas a bots como haechi bulgasari y spectre inquisitor etc mucho jugadores que llevamos tiempo jugando nos costo tener esos robot para que salgan conque en la nuevas actualizaciones serán tan débiles como un bot legero a mi punto de vista se deberían de centrar en bajarle el daño a armas de largo alcanse y resolver los problemas de los hackers en el juego gracias por la atención


Saief3 months ago

pixonic why do you have to nerf bots. Its not the bot which plays good its the pilot who runs it. We have access to every bot and weapon in the game so everyone can have this bots besides these(bulgasari,haichi,specter) are the bots that make the game competitive, hard and fun. just buff older stuffs so they can compete with these bots. Nerfing stuffs isn't always the answer , the bulgasari is all about its hp and its strong shield thats why its a stron brawler but you are nerfing it.
don't nerf the bots because lots of players has obtained these bots after very hard work,nerfing the bots would make them frustrated you will lay waste to all their hard work

Erik Nash3 months ago

Here is what i think about the new set ups its about damn time they did this, they are putting a blockade on OP players thinking they can buy their crap and walk the fields and cheat to get the wins, what Pixonix s needs to do is revamp their system so stop hackers/ cheaters from using mods int he game and ban them when they do use them. Seen to many players either go invisible shoot through walls and so much more. These people should be banned and no longer aloowed to play.
And none of youcan tell me its not true or not seen cheaters and hackers they are posted all over the placve from FB gameroom.
The whole system is geting worse it all needs to be revamped.

Erik Nash3 months ago

CRO CUP, First off if youhave all that in your hangers after 3 years and yousay youbought bots and weapons then youare one of the many7 jackasses that have ruined the game for the rest of the players. being OP does not mean your better, it just shows youlike to spend money to get your upgrades faster. try building a new hanger and leave the old ones onthe side lines and not use any real money to upgrade but use your time see how long you really last going up against a OP player in the game.

Saief3 months ago

pixonic dont nerf bots and weapons. you are nerfing the best bots into junk just because some noobs don't know how to compete with these bots. not every stuff in a game is powerful from the start, you get powerful and good stuff as you progress in the. this is the process but if nerf new stuffs like bulgasari haichi specter orkans it would be chaos. just think about the players who invested, played hard, worked hard to get this stuffs caz these are the best and if you nerf these stuff all their hard work would be wasted caz they didn't expected this. if you want to rebalance than buff older stuffs

Saief3 months ago

Guys! let me tell you about bulgasari's specialty
1.Has the strongest shield in the game
2.Has tons of hp
Now let me tell you what pixonic is doing :
hey pilots sorry, but we are nerfing the shield of bulgasari and its hp. see you getting crushed bulgasari players by exodus in the battle field !

Saief3 months ago

pix don't ruin the game play really? nerfing the bulgasari, haichi, specter! the only thing you should change is shocktrain's chain reaction

Saief3 months ago

Lahav (Blade), i agree with you lahav. they don't have to change existing bots or the weapons except the shocktrain's chain reaction

Dude3 months ago

Lahav (Blade), You have obviously not been playing this game long enough to see all the changes from what was a potentially wonderful game. It is broken. Why would they need to insert casino games to boost profits, if the game alone and what it offers can't bring in the cash, if it were not broken? I apologize for the horrible grammar, but my point still stands. The detuning you peak of, well....I have more weapons and bots that that have been adjusted so many times that I lost track. That is over a little less than three years of way op equipment (bots and weapons) that are then adjusted to balance out more, only then to be made useless. Only over the last year and a half, they catered to their big money players, media sycophants, and tanker types that they love to have keeping the honest layers stirred up, they put out these bots and weapons that dominated, made them crazily expensive or very hard to obtain for the frugal folks, or those that just can't afford to spend, and then wondered why their participation dropped off so much. They had and still have issues filling battles in the higher leagues, why, because they don't control tanking. Almost the majority of those chronic tankers are players that could easily compete in the higher leagues, only they are roaming around theow leagues abusing new and weaker players. The devs love them for it too. They believe, I don't, that it causes players to get so upset that they impulse spend to upgrade faster when they so upset at getting their rear ends fed to them. It's some of that schizophrenic business decision making that Pixonic has employed for the past year n a half or so. It has been so wonderful for us, right? Not hardly. I have had so many friends quit for so many reasons, not just one, but the main ones are tankers, bad match ups, and removal of choices for us that we had to begin with, not ones that just suddenly wanted. Plus, there were a few others. Some had teens that played and they didn't want them exposed to foul language, players names, that Pixo does t monitor for or censor. The game claims to be family friendly, the reality is different. Gambling, no censoring of foul language, and a quiet tacit endorsement of what many consider cheating, tanking. I dont think it's cheating, but it's close. Manipulation of play to force losses on your own squad mates, only so you can drop leagues, more manipulation of a poorly designed league system, just so you can use much stronger equipment to bash around weak players. You use your own description, personally I think they are less than turd scum. They have damaged this game, maybe to the point that it will never be more than it is now. The devs in their drive to feed their greed, I know it's an overused cliché, but it's fitting here, have allowed it to continue, with only the very minimum of punishment for tankers, that probably traps more players with technical issues than it does tankers, and then they will kit release the players with technical issues from the tanker's jail, even though the devs acknowledged the legit issue. How messed up is that? I know I strayed from my original point, but it paints a pic that encompasses how long this crap has been going on. So, screw that not fixing what isn't broken crap. Dude, that statement only shows your ignorance of what goes on in this game. I mean no insult, I just mean you aren't aware. There is all kinds of broken junk in this game. It's way past time that they address this problem with these weapons and bots that dominate. Some players just simply cant afford them, or put in the time it would take to obtain them the cheap way. I have gotten quite a few the cheap way, but not everyone is able to. Try to remember, there is only one you, you do things that work best for you, it's the same for others, just different. Make sense? These dicks that say well... I did it this way, got all these things, and you're a loser because you don't have that stuff. I say screw you dude, everyone has their own way, right or wrong, good or bad, successful or unsuccessful, things are just freaking different for each individual. I apologize if I insulted you in any way, not my intent. Be well, God bless.

R0ck_0n3 months ago

Well done pixonic. I don't agree with some of the changes but at the same time, it's about time we saw the death of the braindead/stealth/noobtrain ERA

R0ck_0n3 months ago

Well done pixonic. I don't agree with some of the changes but at the same time, it's about time we saw the death of the braindead/stealth/noobtrain ERA

Vastah Van der Blastah3 months ago

CRO CUP, I'm grown up enough to say that if I offended you, I am truely sorry. This was not my intention.

You have to forgive me for my outburst hurting you / coming across as unrespectfull. I will stand by it, but let me rephrase and explain;

If one has the will and resources to pump money into this game, they end up with mk2 shocktrain hangars. Off course you will comment how these changes effect you. You and several others.
On the other side is a majority of players who don't and lack off a mode where they are safe from big investers.

If orkans or other "close up weapons" were powerfull the discussion would be different. Shocktrains however are not.
I do my outmost best moving from cover to cover to outsmart my opponnent, only to be killed because one of my teammates within 150 meter is not and gets hit 3 or 4 times by 4 spectres with shocktrains. I get chained and killed although I'm out of sight and behind cover in an.agile bot.

This is ridiculous.. I have done all I can to avoid damage and I get chained off. On large maps, this is a downright killer of fun.

And from there comes the frustration I vented at your comment. Now you took a hit and I got to gloat. And rub it in.
Childish? Maybe. But bear with me.

Why rub it in? Because we all deserve better than get frustrated and taking those frustrations out on each other like I did to you.

You didn't invent a broken weapon like the shocktrain. It is however your choice to exploit it and putting it on the map. As do others. Henceforth the meta is born.

I spend money too but it is my choice not to invest in shocktrains. I hate and despise them as they are. I hate the cowardly gameplay involved.

The solution is intervention.. nerf down the shocktrains, let other bots and weapons shine.
Don't feel bad. You have at your disposal still fearsome bots weapons and abilities. If you have skill, you will make them work. If not, then maybe invest in buffed weapons and bots.

Have a good one and once again, my sincere apologies for offending you.

jakima3 months ago

why do you want to nerf orcans??? these weapons are the best I have yet and still you guys are going to nerf it??? I've wasted almost 6k gold for that and it's just like you're taking it away... so probably my spectre's going to suck then

Terry Adrian3 months ago

While I understand the need for such changes there will be many unhappy players as a result of some of these changes. Largely because the majority of players have spent an absolute fortune to acquire, equip and upgrade bots that are now being nerfed, drastically in some cases. I agree that some bots needed nerfing but I feel it is being overdone with some bots. Going from one extreme to the other. The Spectre for example is having it's speed reduced, health reduced, longer cooldown and shorter stealth. Don't you think that's a bit extreme? Two seconds stealth?? You're making one of the most desirable bots, that has earned you a fortune I might add, into one of the weakest bots. It will end up in the same boat as Stalker. I'm happy with many changes, like the Lancelot for example and the Fury, the Carnage could use an even bigger buff though. I understand a lot of tweaking will take place before any final implementation but I have genuine concerns that you are going too far with the nerfing of some bots making them all but useless. I will be playing this weekend's test server and will give honest, constructive feedback but as I said, some of these changes seem a bit too drastic as it stands.

AVENGER3 months ago

Very nice direction to go...

AVENGER3 months ago

Very nice attempt

Lianxin He3 months ago

Bulgasari data is wrong, please check it, the current physical shield at level-8 is NOT 169,000

Jack16093 months ago

Mercury gets a buff YES!!!

The Big Drop3 months ago

Totally ready for this! Bring it on!!!

I'm not just saying that because it may favor anything other than those WR pilots who have struggled with having diversified and/or mixed build Hangars in a game that equates success with specific game meta.

I have long thought that pilots who have select hangars of all specific equipnent, who are obviously looking to this game as a prinarily competitive game, should be placed in the upper-echelon of players where that mentality exist; a sort of "classification"

Douaib3 months ago

I realy like these changes, because there are a lot of bots and waepons in the game to use, but others just always choose specter, inquistor, heachi, bulgasari with otkans, scourge, shocktrain, that's not what i am doing here! I am here to try every possible build amd ENJOY it! I always support you pixonic!!! You are the best, and your game is the best of the best!!

blazegamer3 months ago

p2w crap
Meta will again change with pulsars all new weapons virtual shit
Just to pay more to this SCAMS

꧁₲ㄥ1༒¢ℏ꧂3 months ago

As long as top tiers are fun again. i dont mind what you guys do

#dontmesswithme3 months ago

I like where this is going. As long as some of the dash bots get evened out, i'll be happy,cuz playing some of the new builds are fun. its no fun when you get blown to pieces when a trigger-happy quadruple orkan specter jumps out of the shadows and kills you...

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